So....today is my 40th birthday...normally, I don't try and shill my birthday, and I'm not now either. But, I just felt I needed to post to express my feelings on turning the big 4-0.
1st- Surprisingly, it's not really a big deal to me. I thought I'd get all bummed that my 30's are behind me, but it just doesn't phase me that way. I'm actually really anxious to see what this decade brings. The 30's brought major changes for me- physically, mentally, financially, artistically...and, to beat all, I became a father! So some pretty big changes. It really has me wondering what the next ten years will bring. I'm starting things out with a bang- an almost two year old son, a new job, and I get to go out and perform ON my birthday! Pretty exciting...btw- we've been getting great response for the show (MIDSUMMER). Kudos to all you guys in the area who have come out. To those who haven't yet...where the heck are ya? And do me, and the whole cast, a favor and stick around to say hey after the show. Meet and Greet is one of the cooler elements of the Fest. Always lots of fun...
You know, I guess more than anything I just feel really blessed today. I have a really great life! I married a great woman who has managed to stay with me for 13 years (as of the 31st of July, that is!) I have a beautiful son who continues to amaze and inspire me daily, I have some great friends (even though I don't see them as often as I'd like) and I get to do Theatre that I am proud of and passionate about. So I haven't made that 1st million yet...I truly can't complain about where I am. (even though, in typical me fashion, at some point, I will!)
I guess that's all I wanted to say- no real topic today, unless you want to tell me your most interesting BIRTHDAY story.
Hope to see you at the aboreitum! Peace out, ya'll!
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Carpe manana! Why seize today when you can put it off until tomorrow?
Except that today, I'm sending birthday wishes to Big Bottom Tim.
Hope your B-day performance is the best of the run (so far); I sure enjoyed the show on Thursday night.
You guys rocked.
I think I celebrated my 40th at
A La Lucie, wearing sequined leggings and feeling pretty good about the whole thing. I was in the best shape of my life, was practically a newlywed, and was heading to Cancun shortly thereafter. Fifty was a different matter, and I'd still rather not think I'm that far along, but...really, like they say, it's better than the alternative. Unless the alternative is being 35.
Happy Birthday X!! Break a leg on Midsummer!
I'm turning 30 in September. :(
I'm turning Japanese-uh. Well, not right now. After all, I know what that song is about!
Happy b-day, man. Sorry we couldn't make it out. I just got lassooed into a paying gig at Pioneer that eats up my nights for the rest of the month. Plus I still have the day gig.
Happy B'day, Tim! Forty was an easy one for me too.
The traumatic one for me was 30. I'd been in LA for two years and all I kept thinking was "Orson Welles had made Citizen Kane when he was twenty-five."
I went to see "10" with Dudley Moore and Bo Derek (alone) that night at Grauman's Chinese (Okay, it's now called Mann's Chinese...but it will always be Grauman's to me...the one with all the footprints in cement); supposedly a comedy, but all I saw was a man grappling with getting reluctantly older. Later that night called my old college heart-throb, Julieanne...I can't remember whether that was the six-hour phone call (three on my dime; three on hers) that started the whole ball rolling again or not...but it was the one that began the long and winding road to eventual matrimony.
My birthday a year later (thirty-one for those of us in the thespian persuasion for whom math is a "puzzlement" [pts. for the musical reference]) came as the run for the play I was in Crucifer Of Blood with Charlton Heston and Jeremy Brett came to an end. As the cast party wended past midnight and the calendar turned over to the 18th of January, the entire cast sang "Happy Birthday" to me. My reply was "oh, great...another year older and unemployed again." Oddly enough, it was, more or less, the swan song of my acting career and the beginning of my writing career.
On my fortieth, ICM came awooing (I eventually signed with them) as did DRAGONHEART (I did the gig).
50 was a cake-walk, given that my wife always said I was born forty-five and had been growing into it for years...and was now past that benchmark. But I was always comfortable with my geezerness. To paraphrase a line from Elaine May's NEW LEAF: "I've been keeping alive traditions that were dead before I was born."
Anyway, I hope your B'day performance was brilliant and you don't stay out too late quaffing celebratory quantities of alcohol. After all, you don't want a hung-over Bottom...which becomes a danger at this time of life...hung-over bottoms, hung-over bellies, sagging jowls, flabby muscles, rickety bones, uncontrollable flatulence, and that thing where you walk into a room and forget what you came in for.
"...that thing where you walk into a room and forget what you came in for."
My God, i've been doing that for years! Thanks for the wishes, Chuck, and all the rest. And no, I didn't stay out last night. Went straight home, like a good (old) soldier! Did have a great night on stage last night and an extremely large, and receptive, audience. Tonight's our last hoo-rah, so if you get the chance, come check it out. AND- keep your fingers x-ed that the weathermen are wrong about next week! We want MUCH ADO to get their full run as well! Anyone interested, Joy and I (as well as the cast of the other 2 shows) will be out on Wed for opening night...maybe THEN I'll get a little tipsy!
Hey X! Happiest of birthdays to you. Sorry we won't be able to make Midsummer -- we're in North Carolina visiting Ryan's family spread out over various parts of the state. Right now we're at Carolina Beach in his mom's condo overlooking the ocean. It's a tough assignment!
I haven't hit 40 yet, but Drama Mama, 30 wasn't at all bad! In fact, I think 30s were much better than 20s.
Sorry you won't make it Nat, but have fun in the sun!
I kinda think the 30's are the toughest. I didn't mind 40, and I don't think I'll mind 50, but 30 was another story indeed! It has been, at times, the best and the worst period of my life. Certainly more good than bad in the scheme of things, but lots of big changes, learning about yourself, learning how the world works, etc. I'm proud to say that I made it through fairly intact, and I look forward to what the next ten have to offer...besides, as John Mellancamp once said "A man ain't worth a damn till he's 40!" Course, he was well PAST 40 when he said that,but still...nice to know I'm finally worth something!
Happy Big-Ass Birthday, Tim!
Age is just a number. Sometimes I still feel 17. And most of the time I act like I'm seventeen.
At my birthday get togethers at the bar or whatever, I usually start off by apoligizing for anything that might happen during the course of the evening. "I apologize in advance, I apologize in advance." It seems to work.
Enjoy your day, evening, and year at 40. I still see you as a 25 year old.
BTW, any points for knowing Hagar's "Ten 13"?
Happy Birthday X!!!! Best wishes always to u...
I have been excited to see most of u so far here in my wonderful vacationsojurnhomecoming to Lex.....we are probably leaving EARLY Weds morn....and I won't be happy about it. Probably pouting. and stomping my foot now and then...cry-lo cry-lo off to Ft. Misery I go.....but alas I have promised X I will try to stop bitching about FL on the blog. So happy bday Tim...u were great in the show, I was thrilled I was here to see it and jealous as hell. I wanted to be up there with you all.
X-Damn fine performance last night! Congrats to the entire cast!
A pretty good crowd for a Sunday as well. I am curious, though, as to who has been @#$*ing the devil??? Great weather AND a good review from Dag Ryen...very suspicious. Just let me know who's responsible so I can make similar arrangements for Much Ado. I can get Gatton to %#$* anybody.
Laurie, it sucks you are leaving Wednesday morning. It looks like I will miss you again. Not happy about that...
-Josh B
So, Tim. Another show put to bed. You're thoughts? If you feel able.
Thanks, JB. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in MUCH ADO this week. If you haven't yet made plans to go, get thee there! It should be a blast...
Adam asked for thoughts:
I really enjoyed our performances this week in the arboreitum. The weather, while a bit chilly, was georgeous. THe crowds were very large and very receptive, and the cast unity was over the top! Every five seconds someone was slapping hands, hugging or high -fiveing another actor. We really pulled together and there were just some awesome vibes backstage. The rehearsal process was a little bumpy in places, what with me switching jobs, looking for houses, a bum right knee, going out of town, entertaining relatives here in lex, and ...OH YEAH...the imminence of turning 40...made for a few distractions, but it all turned out glorius in the end. IF you've never done the Shakes fest, do so. It's a blast. AND - I officially threw my hat in the ring to direct next year. If you know anyone connected with making said decision, and you enjoy my directorial efforts, gimmie a plug. I feel that I've more than proven myself here in Lexin that capacity, and I hope they'll choose me for next season.
COOL! I'll drop J. Meenach a note now. Please direct Henry V, Dicky II or III.
Late Happy Birthday, Tim!
If you do Dicky the II or III, I want to play him (and who doesn't?), so see about getting an Equity Guest Artist.
Happy B-day my Brother!
so many posts so....
30 was much harder than 40. I guess because 40 was a MUCH better party!
Due to Much Ado, I was able to see some of the 1st and some of the 2nd. PLEASE forgive. I have always enjoyed your work and this time was no different. I am still smiling!
Yet again I will miss seeing you Laurie. You can always stop by the Explorium tomorrow during the day!
I will make my pitch for you to LSF also!
No equity at LSF.
NOw I must paint.....
Cognito ergo zoom (I think therefore I go fast.)
-russell
Hey Russell,
Can you gimmie a call when you get a chance?
576-1744
-x
* EXTREME SARCASM ALERT
Really???? Union actors at a NON UNION job???? How shocking!!!!
as Woody Guthrie said..." I hate unions, cause God loves unions and I hate God."
Of course he was being sarcastic.
BUT (I maybe openening a can of worms) I feel the era of the union is over in America. They are a big reason jobs are running away.
They limit their memebers more these days than help them. There is more of what you cant do than can. Is this not opposed to what America should be?
I am sure I am in the minority but there you have it.
-russell
You're in the minority with me. Artistic Unions are especially crucial. A career in the Arts is like a career in baseball. You better have a good pension and health plan when it's over. Equity, SAG, AFTRA, WGA, and the Dramatist Guild can't promise me work, no one can. But they sure do protect me well when I do work.
The Era of the Union may be over, but it's over because of the Union-busting tactics of the Republicans starting with Reagan back in the eighties and Big Business CEOs who want to walk away with a couple hundred millions of dollars every year and will squeeze the American worker anyway they can to get it.
I hope Ken Lay is roasting over a slow fire in Hell right now, being buggered brutally and ruthlessly by every demon in the place.
I've always been of two minds: My Dad was always a union supporter back in the 70's, but as we all know, this ain't the 70's! TImes have changed, and I'm not sure where the unions fit in. FOr instance, in the late 80's the UAW tried like hell to unionize the big Nissan plant just north of my home in the boro, and the plant workers almost unanamously voted them out. Why? Cause the Nissan corp was paying them well, giving them great benefits, and lots of vacation time. Why rock the boat and piss off the hand that's feeding you REALLY well? Not sure what has happened there since, but I never really saw the good in Unionizing just for the sake of it-I think that Chuck makes some valid points regarding the Artistic unions, amd obviously he's speaking from a position that most of us, myself included, aren't. But dammit, I have always felt that AEA was often more of a hinderance than a help. If I remember my history right, it is STILL the lowest , union negotiated wage in the capitalist society. That doesn't say a whole hell of alot for their power (according to Robert Cohen in THEATRE: A brief Version 8th edition) ...just my 2 centavos...
They cant promise you work but they sure can keep you out of it!
I know you feel very different but I hear more stories about people getting their "card" and not able to do anything because of it.
There was a comment about LSF next year. Since their are no contracts with equity then your outta luck. A very juicy role and probably right down your alley. But if you want to do it, you have to pull a "Junita Jeeter".
How does keeping people out of work help them? Insurance, 401k, etc. yes these things are good, but if you cant get work to pay your dues how is this a good thing?
I know there are people who have done very well because of their union, but these are few and far between.
This is just an opinion not an attack.
PS Enron was all greed, unions has nothing to do with it. But I do believe Ken is sitting next to Hitler.
....AND baseball players are the highest paid career athletes on average in the world...
....AND 45% of American have no kind of insurance.
-russell
My first non-union job in 1973 paid fifty dollars a week and a room (in a college dorm for the summer...no women allowed in the dorm). A very short while later, my first union job paid $175 a week, plus pension and health insurance. That's why unions.
Unions do not keep anyone from taking a job. You want to take a non-union job, just turn in your Equity card and quit the union. Simple as that. You want to be a union actor, play by the rules, don't take non-Equity work. But you can't realistically expect a Union actor to be able to freely bounce back between Union and non-Union work, that just makes hash of the Union...and even undercuts non-union actors, because then nobody is going to make a living in theatre.
You also do a disservice to those who want to play that dangerous game of bouncing back and forth, by idly bandying about actors' nom de guerres for non-union work on this site.
Inevitably, at some point, some Union actor will take work from a non-union actor who will feel cheated and disgruntled and then some Union actor will end up getting reported. Don't set the match to an already volatile situation.
The people who have done well out of their Union are not few and far between. What? You speak to some disgruntled Union actor (here in this town...hardly the bastion of theatrical unionism or union work) and you suddenly accept this wild-ass rumour as fact.
The actors who have done well from their union are every known working actor you can think of and every actor who has a sustaining career as an actor. The faces you see on TV and Movies and in theatre World. The actors consistently working and having careers in New York, LA, Chicago, and London are union actors. There may be a lot of union actors who don't have consistent careers; but I doubt ANY non-union actors are having consistent careers.
I do not know a single non-union actor who actually makes an even modest middle class living exclusively as an actor. I know hundreds of union actors who do.
What many Union actors who gripe about their fate may not want to accept about their chronic unemployment is that they may not be getting jobs because they're just not very good actors.
To Union actors here who complain about the lack of job opportunity; I say go somewhere where they hire Union actors.
Hopefully, under Rick's leadership, AGL will be hiring more Union actors...and then we'll no doubt here more bitching from non-union actors or even union actors who don't get cast. And I think that's the heart of the matter...not union or non-union, but people wanting to find some scapegoat for not getting cast. Well, welcome to the wonderful world of theatre.
No reason why the Shakespeare Festival shouldn't have a few Equity guest contracts. But it's not the end of the world. Certainly not worth it to me to jeopardize my union status for any role.
Baseball players do well; so does Tom Cruise...to the tune of about 20 million a film. He's a union actor. Baseball players did not do so well before they had a Union; many, if not most, had to take winter jobs.
My experience has been that those who bitch the most about Artistic Unions are those who AREN'T in them.
For most actors who truly want to have a career and support themselves as an actor, the union card is an avidly-sought goal.
Did the Shakes Fest go on tonight? We were going to go but it was still raining in my neck of the woods at five. And I had business at the awful theatre where they hire Union actors and...gasp...even actors who aren't from here.
Looks like Saturday for us!
Steve, not sure I know ANY artist who actually thinks / says this:
"The sooner we stop saying "I am so sorry I am an artist, I don't deserve to be paid" the quicker this might change." I know that the Artistic unions are valuable, and believe you me- if I had the luxuary of working in an area where I was able, I would have had my card long ago... I DON'T however, believe that the union shits gold. I know they have helped SOME actors to make a living wage, but most union actors, from the last figures I saw, work an average of 12 weeks a year, for about 4 or 500 bucks a week. Last time I checked, that ain't gonna pay anyones bills in the Bush-onomics era. ( An I know some do better, but come on Chuck- Tom Cruise is hardly the yardstick here. ) I have always felt that many actors want to have union status to legitimize their careers. I don't necessarily think there is anything WRONG with that notion, it's just always bothered me that there are some out there (all present company excepted) who feel that their union card makes them somehow above the millions of us who don't have one. AND I'm here to tell you...it does not! As Chuck stated earlier, there are lots of crap union actors.
Believe me though, I ain't non- union, and as soon as I am in the position to make it happen, or I find a nice clever loophole, I'm gonna join right up, if for nothing else than to further my teaching career. To pretty much even get your FOOT in the door of a state institution, you gotta be union affiliated.
And perhaps bandying about peoples pseudonyms might not be the best idea. However, I know no one here intended to "out" anyone. But we do sometimes forget that cyber space is a vast area indeed.
BTW- the festival did go on. The rain began sprinkling down in the LAST scene of the show, and they got it all in in good time...which only goes to prove my theory that GOD LOVES THE SHAKESPEARE FESTIVAL! Good show, btw- sorry I couldn't stay for meet and greeet (yeah, I KNOW- I'm a hypocrite!) but I had a wife and youngun to get home to! JB, you sir are a FINE dancer! It was like dancing with the Stars in that last number! Nicely done, sir!
Tim, right. Getting a Union card doesn't suddenly make you a better a actor. I know plenty of sucky Equity folk and you wonder how they got their card. Just had that right look or type for something someone needed at the time, I guess.
The Tom Cruise thing was just a riposte to Russell's Baseball players being fantastically rich comment which somehow seemed to me irrelevant...other than the fact that neither Cruise nor the baseball players would be making what they are making if they hadn't been in the Union in the first place.
I don't think, however, we can blame the unions for the unemployment figures in the Arts.
That's just the way it is and has always been, when the Unions were strong, when the Unions were weak. They were never meant to be hiring halls...just to secure fair pay and good conditions for those who do work. At any given time, there will always be 80% of arts performers and writers out of work.
That's partly just the vicissitudes of the business and partly because probably at least two-thirds of that 80% should be out of work! Because they're not very good.
I once had a director tell me at a call-back, of the 300 people you see at an open call and of the eighty you call back maybe only a dozen or so are real actors (I got the gig, by the by...so I guess he thought I was a real actor).
Of course, that still leaves good talent that never gets the breaks.
Someone else told me when I was shifting over to writing: If you can write, you'll eventually work in this town (LA). Not so if you can act.
Because for every role, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of actors vying for it. Equity or SAG or AFTRA can't be blamed for that. The Theatre (film and TV inclusive) is not a democracy. It's not fair. Not everybody gets a chance, union card or no.
The fact remains that those actors who ARE working and ARE earning a living wage are ALL union actors.
Can anyone name me a non-union actor they know who makes, say, 20-25 grand a year from just acting (not wearing any director or manager hats or supplementing with a teaching gig) in non-union theatres? I've never known one in my life. And even that figure is a mighty tough one to own a house and support a family on.
I once heard a figure somewhere that stated 75% of all lawyers were incompetent. I was at first appalled, but then I figured the incompetency rate in our profession is probably roughly same...I suspect it's roughly the same in a great many professions.
I've long held a theory that a third of the population is really good at their work and they also create and invent and set up and make paradigms where another third can competently perform tasks and do work without disaster striking, and the final third is just useless.
Julieanne and I were going to take our jeans and change and go to the Shakespeare Fest after our other engagement. But when the rain was still pouring down as we left, we just figured it would be cancelled and didn't take the change of duds. And I would have just looked silly sitting in a lawn chair in a coat and tie. It also seems like the muggiest night of the year. Hopefully, the weather will hold out for the rest of the run.
Good points, all, Charles.
I really thought right up until about 7:30 that the show would be cancelled, but they managed to squeak it in. I hope the rain doesn't get them tonight. Rest of the weekend may be safe if they can get past this evening.
Ok boys and girls, a little lesson from your pal - don't drink and post, look at what lil ol me stirred up!
LOOK, I have a day job to pay my bills, but if you ever tell me I am not a professional....
For me - Theatre is art! Period. Not a job. A privilege, a duty.
I will do what I have to in order to practice my art. This is what ALL but "the few" have had to do since Boolabarg painted an antelope on a cave wall.
If you are a painter who waits tables and forgoes heat for canvas, this is the sacrifice. Art isn't free. It costs the creator.
Each of us must find the limit to our personal devotion to art.
I work Union gigs from time to time. Good pay. Regular breaks. But I would NEVER join. I like the freedom of being able to work with anyone, anytime, anywhere.
I am not advocating the fall of the American Unions. They do protect their members. The unions are why children no longer work in factories. When you get holidays off this is a direct result from the unions.
But to have to pass up on great part, or not design for your dream show because you are not allowed. To be passed over for a gig, not because you are not the best person for it, but because you don't belong. To be paid less because someone else has to be paid more! I cant help but feel this is a sin.
OK I am done.
X- can your delete my post with my good friends name in it for me. I should have never done that.
JJ- if you visit here, please forgive me. I really hope I don't get you in trouble with big brother!
-RUSSELL
Great. They have already carted her away. Now who is going to play Margrethe?
No worries, Russell. ANd some good points also. ANd I agree that it is both a "privilege and a duty"...I know where you;re coming from there.
Damn, ya'll. This was supposed to be a little post about birthdays...how the hell did we get to unions???
"I also have a family and I have bills to pay, why the heck shouldn's I be able to "amke" a living at my art."--SK
Amke?
What, are you typing in pig latin?
Thanks for the kind words, Tim. Though, (and I am not fishing for compliments here), you're the second person to tell me I dance well. Which is somewhat akin to "she has a nice personality."
JB: Hey X., what did you think of my performance?
X: Well...you dance well.
I am sure that's not what you meant, and you were just surprised because you've never seen me dance before. But you know me, I'm always culling for jokes. (I'll be at the Dame the 17th BTW)
-JB
How about this one?
"That looked fun." Or...
"Boy, that was fun."
I hate those. I mean, just tell me you thought it was boring.
No no, JB. Note that I had a "Well done" after that! That was an overall "Well done"- and yes, your fleetness of foot did take me aback a bit...in a nice way! You made a darned fine Claudio...and sorry I couldn't stay for meet and greetto tell you personally. I really needed to get home to the family.
I've never believed in the adage of "suffering for one's art." I prefer comfort to create. When one has to worry about paying the rent, one can't totally give oneself over to his "Art". It splits focus.
The sacrifices for your "Art" don't come from living in squalor to prove you're an "artiste", but from within your heart and soul. That's where "Art" puts demands on you. That's where it costs. In the inferno of your Passion. Passion motivates "Art". But the costs it exacts also reap rewards. Nothing in life worth having doesn't have its price.
The life choices I made to pursue my "Art" on a professional level I didn't look on as "sacrifices", they were the necessary priorities I chose to make until my "Art" was established...I didn't get married until I was thirty-seven, children were not an option, I didn't encumbered myself with large financial burdens like house payments, car payments, etc. I always took real jobs (on those occasions when I had to) that I could quit the minute they got in the way of my goal.
Everything was done to accommodate my "Art." I tried to streamline my life during the early establishment days so that nothing proved a distraction to my ultimate goal, so that I had no, or at least very minimal, obligations or priorities that drew focus
from the desired destination.
In doing so, I found I was better able to concentrate on my "Art", I got established quicker, and I had more fun along the way than those who chose to impede their progress with other priorities ("Man, I couldn't be driving that old clunker. The payments are only 350 amonth.") and were chronically beating their breast and pissing and moaning about all the great sacrifices they had to make to "do" their "Art". Artists don't whine. They may wail and rail and bellow and defy, but they don't whine.
It simply boils down to how badly do you want it and what are you willing to do, short of selling your soul or compromising your integrity (because when you do those two things, foget it, you're dead as an artist), to do it.
I watched Witness last night. Man, is that is a great movie. If you haven't seen it, do. If you haven't seen it in a while, watch it soon. Kelly McGillis gives her finest performance, in my opinion. Excellently directed.
I just had to say that.
X-I really wasn't fishin, I was just taking a humorous view of your comments. Mostly because I have heard and said comments before that were blatantly vague. It's something every one does, and I just crack up thinking about it. Thanks again for the good press, I am not offended at all you didn't stay to greet, I kind of hate doing that anyway. It makes me super uncomfortable, like I'm supposed to go out, turn around, and present my back prominently for everyone to pat. I know that's not the purpose, I understand it's value, but I still don't like it...where r u living now???
Yeah, Adam, "Boy that looks fun." is a good one. From now on, that is going to be my signature line, so if you hear it, don't take offense ;)
And witness is okay, but there are no Kenny Loggins songs in that one, so I'd have to say Top Gun is still her best performance. I was torn leaving the house yesterday because Silverstreak was coming on, that scene where Gene Wilder tries to milk the cow is classic.
JB
But JB, you see boobs in Witness. And you don't have to see her freaking it with TC. Talk about a cock block.
And Kenny Loggins wrote the little German ditty they all sing when they walk home from the barn raising. I think it was the lyrics of "Danger Zone" in German set to a traditional folk tune.
"Everyone says that Shakespeare is so great, but how come no one has never heard of him?
--Guidance Councelor Mo Phelps
Alicia, you are correct, and thank you for the compliments as well as making it out for the show.
Along the same lines, I get a lot of the "How are you" replay.
John Doe: Hey Josh, how's it going?
JB: Hey John Doe, I'm doing well thank you. How are you?
John Doe: I'm good, how are you?
I always love it when that happens...
-JB
JB-you see Maxim Online's worst comedians of all time article?
I thought they were way too nice about Carlos Mencina. That guy is as funny as date rape.
12. Carlos Mencina
11.Chris Titus
10.Judy Tenuta
9.Kathy Griffin
8.Gallagher/GallagherII
7.Paula Poundstone
6.Sandra Bernhard
5.Louie Anderson
4.Yakov Smirnoff
3.Whoopi Goldberg
2.Margret Cho
1.Sinbad
I agree with a good amount of these. How about you? Anyone else? Judy Tenuta should have been closer to number one, IMO.
I agree, Judy Tenuta should maybe BE number one. I never got her at all. I can remember when all these had their vogue. Most of them dated pretty fast. None were ever must-see for me. I suspect Larry the Cable Guy will make this list soon. Did they list who the top ten best comedians were?
Actually no.
And Larry the Cable Guy is about as funny as getting shot through the neck with an arrow and then finding that a gas bill has been tied to it.
I dunno, I always kinda thought Margaret CHo was pretty funny.
And personally I would add Emo Phillips and Howie Mandell to that list...
Yeah, Adam, you're dead on about Mencina. Although, you're giving date rape a bad rap associating it with Mencina.
10-12 should be 1-3, or at least in the top 5. I've worked with some pretty crappy people that would be number 1 in my book, but as far as more famous ones go, I agree w/Tenuta at the top.
-JB
It's hard to argue w/Howie Mandell being on the list. I give him credit for using one voice for twenty years (Gizmo/Bobby/Every other project). As far as his comedy goes...he belongs on the list.
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