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Ooops. I hit publish by accident before I could write the text of my entry...then I realized it was actually cooler that way! (If you know the sitch...)
So for you on the west coast (or Mississippi, arkansas, Tennessee, etc...) Our local Shakes fest just bit the dust with absolutely NO warning!
Here's a link to RIch COpley's blog entry regarding this:
http://copiousnotes.typepad.com/weblog/2006/11/the_lexington_s.html#comments
So...locals and out o' towners (you too,rick)
DISH!!!!
NOOO! I really can't believe this. Very, very sad.
It is incumbent on the board to come clean. For no other reason than to protect other arts organizations from suffering the same fate.
I fear it is a case of those making decisions no longer having the energy or fortitude to continue, and not wanting to see if anyone else could carry on in their stead. If that is indeed the case, we will never know...
-JB
JB, "...you took the words right outta my mouth" to quote...uhh...Meatloaf...
I am very sad about this, also. Summer won't be the same.
From the comments on Rich's blog, it sounds like there have been some dissatisfaction among the Lex locals for a while. Of course, you can only divine so much from such a forum. After all, wasn't JC Superstar an unqualified success? The H-L article mentioned weather as a huge factor. If you are going to run an outdoor show, you have to keep a huge reserve to insure against such things. OR (why no one does this I do not know) BUY FREAKIN' EVENT INSURANCE LIKE THE BIG BOYS DO!
Mike, pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't insurance for something as common as rain, be rather steep?
But I found the reader comments on Rich's blog very interesting, several lamenting the limited choice of plays...always my big bugaboo.
Needless to say, I love Shakespeare and classic theatre. It may be my favourite kind of theatre. Hopefully, something good will rise from the ashes.
Damn damn damn damn damn
I have done 11? festivals.
And I have BEYOND wonderful memories of each one.
I feel like someone knocked the wind out of me. Trish C. and I toyed with the idea of me coming back to Lex this summer, staying with her and maybe someone would want me to be in something in the Fest.
Damn damn damn damn.
A "wake up call"
LEXINGTON WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, Rick, yes...someone fill the void.
BUt there is nothing like performing outdoors under the stars and the moon, looking out into a sea of candlelight, feeling a breeze.
Regardless of the bugs and disappointing rainouts...I loved it all.
Damn damn damn
And JB,
you know it scares me to think that maybe it was a loss of passion. I think when you really love something, you'll fight to keep it. Maybe we didn't see the fight...but it would have helped if we did.
Instead, WHAM BAM, it's over?
Lou, I promise to call. I really do. My # is 420 5776. email at adam@leedscenter or jaluckey@hotmail
As for this Lexington Shakespeare Testicle Brou-ha-ha, I say strip it down to celebrate the words and the plot, not the spectacle.
I'd rather play to 100 people who give a damn instead of to 700-1000 people who only care about where the next glass of wine is coming from or who has the bug spray.
One thing is for sure, if WE don't do something to keep Shakespreare alive in Lexington, the only Shakespeare we are going to see is in the university setting. We all know how those can turn out. Sure there are some quality Shakespeare shows coming out of the colleges, but they are few and far between. And thers is nothing more annoying than seeing bad Shakespreare.
I know Rich is asking around about the reason why the festival closed, so far the "soaring cost of wood" doesn't seem to be a solid reason-just to quote the paper, I know there is more (Tim your post was great on the other site..Adam, I loved yours as well)...
if you go to Rich's blog site, which Chuck was talking about, there are a hand-full of audience people who have expressed their opinions, it is very interesting to read them...a lot of the folks I have talked with have suspicions and of course saddness, the shock seems to be wearing off and then there are a few who were not surprised at all...anyway, really positive ideas are beginning to blossom...I think the best thing of all in the festival closing, is to rid itself of a board & management that did not have a passion for it as shown by letting it go so suddenly with no attempt to save it...they did not understand the soul of the mission of the festival, greed took over somewhere...soooooooo, get back to a humble, fresh start, i love it...oh, and as far as the insurance, rain coverage would be an endorcement to the event insurance and is usually 4 times the cost, you must declare what your projected income would be in a given night as well...it is costly
Seems Adam and I are accord. Strip it down; get back to the words.
Adam and I might even be "in" accord.
According to research I did for that "other outdoor show" I worked for, you can expect to spend 3% to 12% on rain insurance. You can mitigate that expense by specifiying alternate dates, etc.
http://tinyurl.com/yh9j4m
I know it may be too little, too late - and it may have been considered by the powers that be and summarily voted down for good reasons - but I would think that the fine folks who support such programs would be all for kicking in a few extra bucks to 'insure' that the whole thing did not drown. Let's say it cost you 12%. Isn't an 88% recovery better than NO recovery from a rainout? Believe me, I understand full well that it's easy to say "get someone to donate the insurance premium" and far tougher to do. But what I have heard so far suggests that this was a management problem, not a support problem. And, please do not feel I am pointing the finger at management. I am simply summarizing what I have read so far with full knowledge that it could all be second- and third-hand bullshit. No one knows how hard management has bailed the boat once she has sunk. I am being an armchair general here and realize that I may not have all the facts.
it was management
Laurie,
the lack of a general call for help is exactly what leads me to believe it is a lack of desire on the part of management. which is selfish. if you don't have the energy or don't want to be a part of the festival anymore, you resign your position and allow someone else to fill the void. not doing so indicates an "if I can't have it, no one will" mentality. maybe i am being harsh, if so, someone please give me another viable reason...
i have been a proponent of another theatre in town absorbing the festival from the beginning; e.g. "such & such theatre presents the LSF" but was always told that the theatre best suited to do so would never do it. i sent an inquiry 3 months ago asking who the board members were so that i could propose the idea and address other issues, i never received a reply. now i think i know why...
-jb
btw, i am disappointed in the response from the community. the proposals being made so far are quick fixes. i was/am hoping the community aims higher.
-jb
you got it JB...you are exactly right...have you seen the 2 proposals on the other site? take a look..
What proposals? It's been known for less than a week? Any proper proposal from anywhere has to take time and care and has to get its ducks in a row. They are just not thrown together willy-nilly.
Also a public internet forum is not where any serious proposal is going to be composed, discussed, or vetted. Theatres like anything else are businesses and businesses don't bandy their business plans about on public message boards where any anonymous punter can take potshots at it.
As far as community response, has the community even had time to absorb it yet? Some in the community may not even be aware it's gone until it's not there next year.
right on Chuck...take a look at the other site
Just came from there. Finally got a gander at the proposal...which is what I guess everyone here is talking about. I like and respect all those folk who signed onto that proposal. Some are dear and beloved old friends; some, I hope, are going to be dear and beloved new friends. Those I haven't already worked with, I would like to work with. I vigourously applaud the sentiments in their statement. I'm just not clear about what precisely is being proposed.
I know...I was surprised your name wasn't on the list..
I am not a LSF veteran, which this group is.
I'm also not a signer of petitions, proposals, or any group endeavour. Nothing against it.
It's just that I like to be an individual voice and for my opinion to be exclusively my own. I only sign what I've personally and solely written.
Micheal Grice isn't...anyway...I understand what you mean...good diversion on the movie stuff...that one guy's post are pretty intense..Roland or something
"business plans about on public message boards where any anonymous punter can take potshots at it."
i hope this was not aimed at me. as you figured out, the proposing has been done publically.
yes, bond, i read them, i also heard through the grapevine some of the early rumblings from those who signed on. chuck, you are right this needs to be done carefully & slowly...which was my point.
-anything but anonymous to most in lex ;) jb.
jb, not you! As you are known. But what I meant is that you don't just want any yahoo from ANYWHERE coming on a public posting site and critiquing what should be private business.
I actually think Michael Grice may have acted at LSF in past seasons and, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was in Joe Ferrell's Much Ado this past summer.
ahh, good to know...he's a really great guy, I am glad he got a taste of the festival even if it was at the end...I know he recently moved back to run the space over at UK...it's great he's here
michael was in much ado, and it is very good for this situation he is in the loop as he's a pretty knowledgable guy.
i see what you mean, chuck. and i think you're right that it should be somewhat private business.
-jb
Michael is very knowledgeable and a good guy too!
that's right, Micheal is very knowledgable, Joe F. took over his position when Micheal moved away, it's great he's back...it's a good group, all very seasoned, I have worked with the majority of them and know their dedication..
and the word for the day, knowledgeable
Indeed, there are lots of knowledgeable folks here in Lex vegas...
For the record, JB, you and I are really seeing eye to eye on this thing...
Okay- I am way down south away from the loop...but I am all for another entity taking over the LSF and keeping the LSF active. I also agree with Adam....does it HAVE to be lavish???? ( I believe there was a mention of the shows being more expensive as a reason why they are pulling the plug.) What about great actors, and artists putting together a great performance? I remember when the Fest was more "rinky dink" and the shows were still great AND people came (Not that they haven't been lately...I understand the need to increase production values to perhaps increase attendance...gosh wasn't that part of the last post?????) Anyway, my point is we have a lot of passion here as artists to keep this thing running...but the question is...what cooks should be in the kitchen reformulating the recipe??
Sorry a bit of a ramble...but I am studying lines and very jumbled right now....
it is so loud at the other site, my eyes hurt and I find myself giggling very uncomfortably...yikes..Chuck made a good joke...hey Laurie, good question..but, what is rinky-dink?
x, baby, let's see how much u agree with me...
firstly, i still think the board should divulge some answers. i know chuck doesn't think so, and i have the same impetus to move on; however, for the benefit of current/future arts organizations we need some basic answers. no inquisition necessary, but a little more than what has been given will help leave a fond remembrance of the lsf.
second of all, i am very afraid this situation is developing way too quickly, and rash decisions will be made. i hope those picking up the torch carry it with a purpose. take your time and do it right. dream without consequence. i would like the group to develop a well researched business plan over the course of a year and present it to us as a community of venture artists. the audience will not be lost if 2007 is dark; more than likely, it will help to open their eyes. comeback stories receive a lot of pub and support, see=trent lott. again, my fear is it will be done quickly, with a tendency to just create a subsistence theater.
still with me...?
-jb
I am...
it is so hard to leave the computer right now...I don't smoke anymore, so that's out...I don't drink hardly at all, anymore...
but e-v-e-r-y n-o-w and then an expensive bourbon/neat with an Amstel back is in order, I am running downstairs, back in a sec...
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On Friday, December 1st, we'll be at the Thoroughbred Theatre in Midway, right there on Main Street. Showtime is 7:30, and tickets are a Scrooge-pleasing $15, which includes a two-set show, as well as coffee & dessert (did somebody say "Plum Pudding?") at intermission. Wine will be available by the glass and maybe beer, too. You'll need reservations through Quirk Cafe at (859) 230-1705 between 10 am & 8 pm. And if you want to have dinner at Quirk (delicious!), there is a pre-show seating at 5:30 for which you must also make a reservation. More info on the Quirk Web site, www.kygallery.com/quirk/.
Those of you closer to Richmond may want to catch us there on Friday, December 8, at The Richmond Area Arts Council Performance Hall, 399 W. Water Street. Tickets for the 7:00 pm "Holiday Soiree Dinner and Concert" are on sale Monday through Friday at (859) 624-4242, or on RAAC's Web site, ww.artsinrichmond.org/. Catered dinner and wine bar by Woody's at The Glyndon are included in the $14 ticket price! Last time we checked, menu choices like salmon, pork medallions, and the like were being bandied about. Designate a driver and come on down, y'all. (Exit 104 to Exit 90 is really only 14 miles on I-75.) Or book a room, pack the mistletoe, and party all night, just like you did after you went rockin' around the Christmas tree at the Christmas Party Hop. And to hell with Linda Gayle Headlock, who was crowned Miss Merry Christmas instead of you, we never liked her anyway, and now she's let herself go all to Pieces, that trashy ho ho ho!
But we digress...
The point is, we're looking forward to seeing as many of you as possible in December. And gee, wouldn't a ticket to see The Bats make a wonderful Christmas-Slash-Hanukah present? Santa Baby says, "Oy, Rudolph, I wish I'd thought of that!"
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yesterday proved to be a busy day for all...go to Rich C.'s blog site...AGL sent a proposal to LSF to resume the festival...my my yesterday was busy...
Good! That's what I've been hoping for!!! If the LSF board fights this instead of working with AGL, I'll be greatly disappointed.
-JB
As will I , my friend.
JB, thanks for your support. As an AGL board member, I'm under confidentiality on this, so I can't really say much.
But I heartily commend both Marc Roland and Rick St. Peter for setting aside their personal fracas on Bo's site to professionally and objectively explore a proposal that will hopefully be a good thing for all concerned.
Chuck, as you know, I don't speak too much. I post on this blog occasionally, because I feel comfortable with the regulars here who I know and know me. The other site is too public for a guy like me. This topic hit a nerve.
I have felt very strongly if this community wants a real professional theatre, this move by AGL is an essential first step. If I had my druthers, AGL would start a capital campaign 2 raise enough money to buy LCT and their facilities as well as absorb LSF.(Everyone has a price, and the Snipes may be ready to step back a little bit but still stay on in another capacity).
Most professional theatres have the programs and revenue base LCT/LSF could provide to AGL. As a larger entity, I assume AGL could receive more of a commitment from LexArts; as well, it would raise their status in the eyes of equity. And a real downtown professional theatre would be attractive to a community, city council, and mayor's office that are all keen on developing downtown instead of continuing to expand Lexington. Bringing in artists and tourists to downtown lex is a great selling point.
I have been of this mindset for years, but the timing was not right. Now the window is open for a variety of reasons, e.g. the leadership at AGL is forward thinking and more than competent, the LSF news, AGL has a great full time marketing director to help tackle the enormity of a capital campagin, etc.
Of course, if AGL accomplishes this hypothetical feat, there will be much more infighting as the competition for jobs on and off stage will increase; some will feel left out. That's part of life I guess, and something that cannot be avoided in this dream reality of mine...
I will say one more thing, and then I'll leave you all alone. Come to Comedy Off Broadway December 18th!!! I'll be hosting a show for 3 native kentuckian comics who will be back in town one night only. The headliner, Tim Mars, is the guy that helped me get started in comedy in LA 3 years ago, so I hope everyone will come out to support the show.
-JB
Would an AGL "takeover" mean that the fest will have an Equity arrangement in its future, too?
Just kinda pondering the possibilites and implications of the proposed Uber-theatre.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I just saw JB's comment about AGL buying LCT, too!
This is getting ridiculous, if you ask me, and I suspect the Snipes would say so, too.
JB,
There may or not be more infighting. It's something neither AGL nor LSF can worry about.
I'm a 30-odd year professional; therefore the ties I want to establish in any theatrical endeavour or community(be it acting or writing or something else) are those where the vision has professional objectives. That's why I got involved with AGL.
So far as I know, AGL is the only one who has submitted a clear-cut business proposal and a plan to LSF.
The proposal posted on Bo's site seems to me more a statement of optimism, hope, dreams...all worthy, positive things in and of themselves...but no real business plan. One can only go so far on "Mickey/Judy/my pop's got a barn" cheerleading and enthusiasm. Dreaming is good, but the dream is never enough without pragmatic substance and a game-plan.
The very nature of a desire to bring everybody in, I find troubling. I think its presents a potential for lots of Chiefs and no Indians (or Native Americans, if one prefers) where every individual or entity is trying to graft their own personal agenda onto the larger agenda.
We know the story of creating a horse by committee...it becomes a camel. I spent too many years in Hollywood watching "committee" creativity destroy true creativity. There has to be one vision. As I've said many times before theatre isn't a democracy.
Some will, as you suggest, always feel left out. AGL and LSF can't really be held responsible for that; they have to do what is best for their organizations and what will hopefully be best for all concerned. The naysayers will complain, condemn, and criticize, but then they always do.
My "dream" as I stated it would not unfold tomorrow, it would take several years (especially a capital campaign), I'm just throwing out an idea for the next step...
Who knows if the Snipes would also be interested in a partnership/buyout down the line if no one asks?
-JB
Chuck, I agree completely. Love your line of thinking. You and Rick are what I was hinting at when I said AGL now had leadership competent and forward thinking enough to get the job done.
Doesn't mean I agree with your posts all the time, but on this issue... ;-)
-JB
JB, I'm just an writer/occasional actor with a whole lot of opinions (plenty of which you're perfectly welcome to disagree with). Rick is providing the competent leadership with a very smart and supportive board behind him. If folks knew all the details of the debacle he took over, the nasty surprises of incompetence he discovered once here, and the long odds he had to overcome to turn a barely breathing theatre on life support to a healthy entity again, they'd know just how extremely competent his leadership is.
I won't argue with you too much Chuck, I give most of the credit to Rick. Going forward, though, I'm glad you are on board with him. Your point of view, though not always popular, is a good component for the conversations.
And you shouldn't be so modest, it's not like you (just ribbing you).
-JB
While I like being popular as much as the next guy, I gotta be true to my code...as the song says...and spew it as I see it.
To pile on this love fest...
I, too, appreciate your opinions and your insight, Chuck. And we've sure had our share of disagreements over these and other pages, but you have given this little cyber watering hole alot of food for thought,and we're all the better for it.
JB, you ,sirrah, are quite the forward thinker yourself. I continue to be amazed at how we seem to be thinking with the same brain on this whole turn of events. (beat) Wait a minute...do you have some kind of insidious MIND CONTROL MACHINE!!!????!!!!! GET OUT OF MY HEADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!
or maybe twisted minds think alike...and kudos for this point:
"Who knows if the Snipes would also be interested in a partnership/buyout down the line if no one asks?" I'm not so sure about the LCT idea either, but the point of never knowing if you never try is extremely relevant to this entire issue.
I hope you are right about that because people have been reading this site and are amazed at the discussion...not in a good way at all...
Becky, I'm sorry but those anonymous, unsubstantiated "everybody is reading this and not liking what they read" claims always seem to convey much more malcontent than there actually is.
Name names or encourage them to speak up (that's what discussion forums are for, after all), but if they don't have the guts to speak up, then screw 'em. Their anonymous opinions deserve to be dismissed, if they can only grumble them in dark, back-biting backrooms. Any genuine, heart-felt, informed opinion, right or wrong, can withstand the light of debate upon it.
First off, no one has designs on LCT. This was JB's dream...certainly not AGL's.
And may I express my admiration for the way the Snipes stay off these boards pretty much, out of the milieu of gossip and innuendo, and just go off and do their thing, not giving a shit what the rest of the "theatre" community thinks, realizng that the reaction of "theatre" community isn't going to impact or impede a sound game-plan or what they want to do one bit. The anonymous grumblers rarely do.
I wish I had the Snipes' willpower to ignore all such triviality.
Since before coming here I heard desperate rumours how AGL and the new artistic director (from the outside, no less) will ruin our nice, little "theatre" community.
I suspect such the grousing to which you're privy emanates from the self-same anointed few who have been bitching about AGL before Rick ever got here who think their longevity entitles them to some elevated position of theatre royalty and that any enterprise must first pass muster with them and everybody has to kiss their ring before they deem them worthy.
Both AGL and LSF have tried to function (maybe not always successfully) as businesses, not as the private, personal playground for the entitled few.
I weary of such petty and transparent attacks. You don't know how many rumours I've heard of this theatre's demise or that theatre's demise or that Artistic Director is an asshole or this person is a shit. People tried to tell me who I was supposed to ally myself with and who I was supposed to disdain. After I got here, it was more of the same.
Sorry, I'm a big boy! I can make up my own mind and won't jump through carefully-placed, narrow hoops.
Whenever something doesn't quite turn out the way the self-anointed deems it should, the rumour mill goes into hi-gear. Worse, outright lies are bandied about.
Regardless of whether an idea has merit, if they can't control it or steer to their advantage, they try to kill it or heap contempt upon it.
Things change, situations grow and move on.
What? Do people still think my pals Roger Leasor and Eric Johnson should still play every leading role out there? Hell, they don't even think that! Maybe no one's noticed, but they've greyed a bit. There are some roles that, while they may not be beyond their considerable talent, are certainly beyond their age range. And that holds true for a whole spate of people. Good actors all, but it's time to accept we're playing parents and grandparents now.
We don't have to lose their special talents, but we have to make way for new talent too. And not just actors! New talent, new ways, new ideas.
If you stand still, you die. If you adapt and maybe make overtures to people you've prejudged out of hand and disdainfully treated as interlopers, maybe you'll find all sorts of new opportunities and advantages.
Many wonderful folk who been here for years and even some, who initially cast a jaundiced eye on AGL's new dynamic, have done just that. Been welcoming, helpful, hopeful, seen possibilities instead of threats, and have become a part of the march forward into exciting new directions and horizons.
Other will just remain in their dark rooms, grumbling about the injustice of it all, honing their knives, and futilely plotting, while the parade passes them by.
I don't see the point of trying to destroy others to make your own light shine brighter. Let people rise or fall on their own merits.
Think back to the time when you and Julie and others were starting up Junkyard? Were there the grumblers? The doomsayers? The resistant skeptics who looked upon you as upstarts? Did it stop you from what you felt you had to do?
Why don't people just leave LSF & AGL to do their explorations. Maybe it will lead to something; maybe not. Maybe it will lead to something really good for all. But I think it's a bit premature to try and condemn something before it's even been conceived, let alone born. Right now, LSF & AGL haven't even had a kiss, let alone hopped into bed together yet.
I don't think anyone is ACTUALLY suggesting that this happen, at least I'm not. My comment to Josh was directed only to the idea that "if you don't ask, you never know"...I think the LCT is doing fine on their own, thank you very much. They are a model of professionalism, and a HUGE asset to the Lexington Theatre scene. UI think folks are just thinking out loud... Please remember, when it comes right down to it, this is my own PERSONAL blog, not a forum for the community to diecuss issues in a way that BO's site is. As to the proposal regarding the Shakes fest, however, I and many like me, think it's a wonderful idea. If folks don;t like what they are reading, then by all means, feel free to cash in your chips and comment, as opposed to hiding in the shadows and lurking!
Chuck, the reaction is to the LCT discussion, I won't begin to speak for anyone, if they want, they certainly can...I have already heard a lot of what you have said in this post in other similar posts...everyone is interested that is all...no need to shred anyone up for speaking and I am sure that is why many do not respond because of that...so I am sure you are not talking to me directly since I have, in no way, indicated anything you are speaking of, I know it is just your fingers unable to stop at times...and Tim, everyone knows this is your forum...everyone knows this is a discussion...everyone is just interested...there are no attacks here...
"I wish I had the Snipes' willpower to ignore all such triviality."
With an 11 show season, I doubt the Snipes have time to do anything except run a successful theatre. I doubt they really give a damn about any grumblings, rumors, or anything else that has been slung around the past week.
I feel the unity and I feel the love. Can't you?
Adam, exactly my point: The Snipes do their thing, do it successfully, and screw what anyone else thinks. They're too busy doing theatre to worry about any of this other shit.
Becky, I naturally thought it was about LSF/AGL thing simply because the whole LCT thing was really too absurd to be taken seriously. If folks are abuzz over one line in JB's comments above, they really are sillier than I thought or they don't read very carefully.
But it just goes to show you how an off-hand remark gets spun by some web-weavers into the most outlandish supposition.
I don't think I was shredding you. If I was shredding anything, it was the rumour-mongering viciousness that people with an agenda have and their eagerness to piss on anything if they can't own it and claim it for their own.
I'm going to try to be more like the Snipes in the future. How successful do you think I'll be?
well, you do seem to have a talent or need for heat..
it's just that when you say something like,..."with an agenda they have and their eagerness to piss on anything if they can't own it and claim it for their own." that is just the way all this sounds, that's all..
"I'm going to try to be more like the Snipes in the future. How successful do you think I'll be?"
I have faith in you. But I'm not betting on you yet.
Be like me. Simply shake your head and laugh.
Becky, when you say: "...people are reading this site and are amazed at the discussion...not in a good way at all" suggests more than "everyone is just interested"; it suggests they are making judgements...negative ones...and that might, in some circles, be fairly be construed as an attack...
Oh, Adam, my head is swiveling like a top and I'm chortling like a madman all the time...Think we're coming to see you tomorrow as Quixote's dream-buster (if the lovely wife has made the reservations), you nasty man, you!
And how about that Copley review..."one of Lexington's best actors"!!!
Excellent, Chuck! I think it is an entertaining evening of theatre. I give Paragon major props for mounting LaMancha and doing it rather successfully. Ryan Shirar is a musical god among men.
And yes, that was rather nice of Rich.
I guess he finally got the check I sent him.
Adam, congrats!
Chuck, fun quoting each other...so much can be read from such few words I guess...
Adam, we're there! (I made the reservations!)
Becky, JB's few words have apparently brewed up a storm in some circles.
of course they would...you know?
Ok Joshy- you stirred this pot...care to comment?
Becky, Josh holds no official capacity or connection with AGL at all. Why should his idle comment...his own personal desire, a thought that has NEVER remotely crossed anyone's mind at AGL...fester into a rumour that has no credence whatsoever? Can't people comprehend what is written? Or are they so eager to traduce, that they'll glom onto any excuse to do so?
I think it is quite clear what is written "dream", speculation...I just think that there is so much happening, so fast, that when something like that gets mentioned, it is an "eye popper" (and I almost wrote pooper, what a difference a letter makes)...even if it is a "dream", it might be startling to read...there's some pretty big things to digest right now and when it was mentioned, a few entries up, that things should be discussed privately, that might have been a good one to pick the phone up on...I am completely aware how this site is different from the other, but not that much, it is still public for anyone to read, and there were invitations to come to this site when the other started...so...thinking it won't be read just because it is here is kind of silly...and calling people lurkers and all that other stuff because they don't write something is odd too...there's no need for all that
whoa, people. I repeatedly stated my idea as hypothetical and a dream. And yes, Tim, this is a more private forum, one where I thought I could spitball an idea with a few friends. Not trying to start a shitstorm. Which apparently has been started, I need to go check the other site to see what all the hub-ub is about.
geez, actors are so dramatic...
-Prometheus (jb)
i went to the other site, no one seems to care about this thread...can someone outline for me what the big deal is? sometimes I'm oblivious...
-jb
For Sale - Slightly used Children's Theatre. 1938 model with many upgrades. Cash or trade for beach house on the Outer Banks or large sailboat.
No phone calls please and for god's sake don't tell the board.
Serious inquiries only.
I don't know if that last post is authentic or not, but if it is... BRAVO!
exactly..
So,Tim...what's the record for the number of posts on one topic? Are we close yet?
Chuck, I read thru your post again...the long one, about 21 or 22 posts above..you went off in so many directions that I wanted to respond to..then, I read it again, and you know what? I think you need a "bless your heart" because it sounds like you have gone thru it, having moved back...I am not sure who you are really preaching to, maybe just swaying your fists about...now, although your insults and generalizations of others not inagreement of whatever the topic of the moment is, puts my tummy in knots...I sincerely am sorry it's been so difficult for you...really..and I am sorry if that is too mushy, it is clear you like an edge...but, your responses get so defensive it just sounds like your bark probably is worse than your bite...peace
You know what's even better than that? It was a post about... nothing. It was just a header and we all knew exactly what it was about. Good header choice- eh, Tim?
A post about nothing? Hmmm... LSF? Hmmm... The "Lexington Seinfeld Festival", perhaps? Hey, I smell a NEW proposal coming on. I mean, Larry David and company already abandoned it, right? And who knows why, really? They never gave us an explanation, did they? I say AGL should absorb the whole thing and bring back the friggin' soup Nazi! Get the J. Peterman store crankin' up again!
Now, nobody get all mad, just think about the possibilities afforded by such "forward thinking"!
I'm just sayin'...
(P.S. Coming soon: nude photos!)
(P.P.S. That's for you, Tim)
Sweet Jesus. My last post there was intended to follow Chuck's "record number of posts" post. In a good way.
I'm going back to bed until the fan gets cleared off again.
now that's funny
Wow. This has gotten ugly. I'm sitting this one out.
Becky,
Thanks for the critique. But having been a professional writer for damned near thirty years, I got paid a lot of money to cohesively express myself. I think I still do it pretty well, even when I'm dashing off stuff in the heat of the moment.
I think the post is focused and on point...the point to which I was responding was about giving credence to anonymous, nay-saying rumour-mongers and this provincial idea of entitlement just because someone's been here forever.
That I thought the anonymous people you mentioned were grousing about the LSF/AGL proposal as opposed to JB's comment (which got ridiculously out-of-hand precisely because of this whispering in corners) may have been misdirected, but doesn't negate the point I was making.
Did I over-react is the question. Possibly. But I never experienced this level of rumour-mongering, gossip, and back-biting in my professional life in Hollywood.
Julieanne and I were discussing this last night and I think she put it very succinctly when she said: "What I resent is being expected to take sides."
That may be the crux of the matter. From before we got here, as I said, certain folk were trying to maneuver us into this camp or that camp; telling us "you should work with these people; but not those people."
Well, I'm sorry, but I refuse to narrow my options. Or dislike someone just because someone else dislikes them.
We'll work with anyone who presents exciting possibilities for work.
I've had a play produced at Studio Players in the past; one at Actors Guild. My plays are out there for any theatre who wants to do them. If some theatre wants to commission me to write a play, let's talk. Any theatre that wants to offer me an Equity contract and an interesting role, I'll gladly consider it.
Last night I saw a show at the Cincinnati Shakespeare Company and met the folks behind that enterprise. As I get further entrenched in the region, I'll continue to throw my net of opportunity far afield...Cincinnati, Louisville, Horse Cave...in any capacity I can. Some folks may want to circle the wagons and stay insular and clannish. Not me.
I've worked with AGL because, quite frankly, Rick has been the most welcoming to both Julieanne and me, has offered us the most interesting work and challenges, and shares the same vision we have for quality, professional theatre in Lexington.
THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME THE ENEMY OF THE OTHER THEATRES IN TOWN! Unfortunately, it does in the eyes of some. This simple-minded: "If you're for them; you're against us!"
No, I support any and all theatre. But my focus will be on professional theatre, which it's been since my college days.
Most frustrating is this frequently prevalent, knee-jerk response that any new person, idea, or way of doing something is immediately regarded as a threat instead of a possibility or opportunity or ally.
"Most frustrating is this frequently prevalent, knee-jerk response that any new person, idea, or way of doing something is immediately regarded as a threat instead of a possibility or opportunity or ally."
Applause.
To Steve, I'm a little disappointed in your response. By giving credit to Rick, I am also crediting you and the rest of the Rick's staff. As such, I was surprised by your statements. I never implied in my hypothetical premise that I wanted AGL become the "only theatre in town." If an AGL/LSF/LCT merger ever happened, there would still be Balagula, Studio Players, Thoroughbred, Paragon, and a host of other theatres operating in town. In fact, if/when AGL achieves its professional status with or without LSF or any other entity, it will only help the other theatres in town.
And as far as technically buying a non-profit, maybe you can't. But could you purchase the facilities and rights, and bring Viv and Larry on board where they remain in charge of running their current operations and give them a strong voice in other affairs as well? PLEASE NO ONE READ INTO THIS, I AM MERELY ASKING A QUESTION TO STEVE, AND TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF A LONGSHOT, MERGING ALL THREE ENTITIES UNDER THE AGL UMBRELLA IS AT LEAST POSSIBLE. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I REPRESENT NO ONE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO NO ONE IN PERSON FOR YEARS. I LIVE IN THE WOODS AND SPEND MY DAYS CONCOTING WAYS TO PISS PEOPLE OFF.
-JB
I like chocolate milk.
Me too, Adam.
I love lamp.
Adam, I'd bring you some chocolate milk for an opening night gift, but it might be construed as taking sides.
Merde!
Chuck, well said...I really was not implying or saying anything about taking "sides" and it's too bad that's been going on...and I certainly said nothing negative about AGL, it's a great theatre (in a good way)...you must know if something comes of the festival, I think that's wonderful..I was only referring to LCT..'nuff said, let's be friends...I like chocolate anything
Okay, first off, I'll confess that I've had 2 pretty large glasses of wine. And that I haven't looked at the Lex. Theatre Group website in 2 days.
My "Whoa, whoa, whoa!" reaction to the LCT buyout idea should be taken as an immediate, conversational reply to JB's "modest proposal," (which I'm sure was conversational, too), and also as an indication of my deep respect and admiration of LCT and its complete automony/professionalism/longevity.I come by that respect via 23 years of working for LCT and L&V, three years of it full-time as LCT's resident costumer designer.
(What I mean is that, if JB and I had been having a latte at Starbucks, and he had said what he wrote, I'd have said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa!")
I have not discussed this with anyone other than my hubby. I don't know what other people are saying about it. Doesn't matter.
Loved L&V's joke, and know how much they love the beach. Wish they could retire to NC, where the wind-surfing is fab, and live in the luxury they so richly deserve after years of the sacrifice of their time, energy, and finances.
IF AGL does absorb LSF, surely that would be enough to occupy Rick and co., as Steve said. I wouldn't envy them the task of running both. I'd just hope that I might be cast as a "parent or grandparent" now and then.
Gotta go. My sciatica and lumbago are acting up, and my false teeth need a good soaking. Or maybe I'll see if Eric and Roger want to play a little Canasta, or go on a Grecian Formula buying trip. Chuck, care to join us?
CP, just to clear it up, some 36 entries ago, the people I was referring to don't even live in Lex-tran, they are scattered about, a few in LA, SanFran, Seattle, Austin & NYC..we all came to Tim's site via Bo's site, at Tim's invitation..we are all Lex-tran theatre natives, just keeping up with events and quite entertained by poster's musings (thank you Tim & Bo for the sites)..but, none of which will post here because it's just an outlet tosee what's up..I am still guessing the naysayers and all that stuff about "new people" you keep referring to, must be coming from a source you are aware of, perhaps the people wanting you to take sides (I agree with Julieanne's statement)...I hope that is cleared up...the folks I speak of are reading just what is written and not a part of any "rumor-mill", merely having a response/or gasp to that particular "dream" including LCT...I have always been "only a reader" myself until the exchanges between you & Russell about local & AGL and all that..also, when Julie & I started JYP, we did not have "grumblers" or "naysayers", and when we started the Shakespeare Festival, we involved everyone who wanted to join in, which included LMT, LCT & Studio (AGL was just forming), there were some people who wanted to keep their distance if it failed so we steared clear of that energy, but when they witnessed the success, they eventually wanted to join us and they were welcome (we weren't much on excluding anyone)..when we founded the Phoenix Group, we definately had resistance..but, you do have to push forward, as you said..I have had many years in theatre, the lead actress of our company for quite sometime, also directing, AD & mgmt and have had plenty of ups & downs, which is unavoidable when you take risks and I had, at that time worked with every group in town..lately,I have been resting, since I moved back from LA and worked with 2 theatres out there, having managed one..the main thing is this, my post, which I thought rather dull at the time & no one would even notice was in reference to LCT because knowing how strong it is(and how much we adore L & V), that even being mentioned in a "dream" startled the whole group of readers and our emails got quite full and I shared that on this site..as an example,if you read someone's dream was to cut someone's hand off, well that would startle me too (we are all very well aware of how the forum works and what a discussion is)..I hope I have cleared something up rather than mucking it up..anyway, we do enjoy the site Tim (I have had permission to speak for everyone) and think you are great for starting it..Bo's site too, keeps us informed..and amused..I love there are so many entries on the Shakespeare heading, I guess we did do a pretty good thing..
I spend all day trying to get the lighting right, the perfect pose, keep the room from being too cold... now I find that I can't upload a photo to your comments?!!
Is this a good time for a colorful metaphor?
Only four more posts and we HIT 100!!!!
JB, could you please say something else to piss folks off? (lol)
I think tensions are just running a bit high lately due to all the news. Perhaps we'll all settle in now that the holidays are rapidly upon us and jsut enjoy the season without worry of who;s taking over who and who said what to whom, and NAKED PICTURES OF MIKE TUTTLE!!!!
btw, Becky, I did indeed invite folks here to discuss stuff a few times over the past year or so, and I certainly welcome any and all responses. I suppose I'm just stressing that this is a different forum than that of Bo's. Hell, half the time we're just naming our favorite movies, actors or rock songs, and being chastised by Chuck for never giving any love to "doo-wop" or movies from the 1930's (Sorry Charlie...)
And when i say "lurkers" I don't necessarily mean that in a negative light...Hell, I lurk at the other site all the time, it's just that usually I don't throw my 2 cents in becasue either:
a) I have a two year old on my lap at the time
b) I am working
or c) I don't want to be flamed for sounding too harsh
Anyhoo, I'm glad that you and everyone that's here is reading the site...and I'm more than happy to keep you all amused with my lousy typing!
please don't cringe when you see my name, just trying to get to 100..the new Bond guy is gorgeous, just saw the movie...
thanks again, Tim...
I read something disturbing the other day. An article said an average person marries at least twice in their lifetime. The first time for love, the second time for money. That's what bothers me. I'm a hopeless romantic, I think you should marry for the love of money every time!
98...
-JB
now that is a dream...
99
you win...
weeeee...
yippeeeee...
confetti
I was just lurking by and thought...what the hell...102.
I like coffee...with chocolate...with bourbon.
-Dr D
I am definitely trying that while I decorate my house tonight...I am going with just amber & white lights this year...
103..
Inch-thick, knee-deep, o'er head and ears a fork'd one!
Go, play, boy, play: thy mother plays, and I
Play too, but so disgraced a part, whose issue
Will hiss me to my grave: contempt and clamour
Will be my knell. Go, play, boy, play.
Let's just play, how 'bout?
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